A Pennsylvania state rep refuses to lead the pledge at a committee hearing.

Based on my First Amendment rights and based on the fact that I really think it's a prayer. I don't pray in public.

Afterward, Josephs was unapologetic. She said she was about 14 years old when Congress inserted the words 'under God' into the Pledge. She insists that makes it a prayer.

"How many years ago was 1954? I have not said the Pledge of Allegiance since and I will not say it into the future unless they take those words out and make it less of a prayer," Josephs said.

Metcalfe concedes it is Josephs' right to not say the Pledge. He just thinks it's wrong.