Pam Belluck (NY Times, Digital Pill)


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For the first time the Food and Drug Administration. Has approved eight digital bill. It's a medication embedded with the sensor that can tell doctors whether and win patients take their medicine. Everybody it's very chuck and we're joined by hand. Bill for the New York Times who wrote this article she wrote that first paragraph and she's conducted join us today on the financial exchange I am RU. It so I'm trying to imagine what the heck is on this goal that taking the device quality computer chip. Well he'd be swallowing. He. Ship that is made. Copper or magnesium and to a cock. Which which may sound kind of artificial but it's actually beater components that we find in. You know many many fruits and vegetables and so. So it's safe. Yeah okay so it's not until the pill bit the it. It appeared not to care are so the FDA approves this what's what's the thought process why we in. I I from what I've my conversations with people the medical profession is. Then it's important that you finish your prescription. You know you'll you'll take your prescription drug. And it may be fourteen days and nobody ever finishes the fourteen days that you're start doing better on day eleven and they don't finish the prescription is that the thought process behind it. Part of that he yes so if so this idea. It's it's actually huge problems that it. The world of medicine has been trying to deal with her decade and a variety of different ways and not very successfully. Which is. That a lot of people probably as many as half. Patients. Just don't take their medicine has described they do exactly what you're talking about the don't finish their toes. Or they don't like this side effects movie don't take it or they just forget you know. And that can pass really serious health consequences if they're taking something that. In enlisted to trying to regulated very serious condition Monica chronic heart condition or something like that. We can end up in the hospital they can end up having surgery and he can also be very very expensive present health system so there is a problem that people have been trying to address them lots of ways with little reminders with little. Kind of. You know yeah alarm clocks this if radical bill capsules. Likely Obama has won new you know take this drug at this time in Baghdad helps her but it. All broke the ham isn't a big problem. We as relates to taking your medications. For people with mental illness because that's where the need yet. The the side effects if you will of of these drugs made this some people look at it as being worse than them the mental illness itself. Yes and some of these drugs do that very very unpleasant side effects you know you. So it can really interest being. Application that this burst killed it's been approved in there will be others in the world. You know apply to other medications but it was really kind of interesting is that this first one. Is being anti psychotic vilified. Yeah which is you know. Prescribed for people with schizophrenia. And bipolar disorder and sort of as an add on for people with major depressive disorder. So. These are populations particularly people with schizophrenia who. Have a lot issues with continuing to take care medication. Her. I'd expect reasons and move reasons it's just kind of not not being able to comply for one reason or another. And so it is really important to try to find some things that could encourage them. To continue on there on their medication but at the same time. Paramount very symptoms of the illness. Such as you know paranoia and and suspicion. Might who raised questions about whether people would in fact want to take. Aids pill that would tell their doctor. That they are taking it and you know it says is sort of the bears out their suspicions that there are doctors actually monitor in particular thing. Well he and you addressed that in your article there's a lot of people that look at this. I whole concept as a tremendous invasion of their privacy. The blue moon yes some people will will certainly see it that way it is voluntary. And that there. You know the counterargument to that is you have to sign up you know either. You have plus proletariat today. The Japanese who if you're the insurance company. At least if I was writing an insurance company. I would say what it'll take your medication. We're gonna drop you because you're you're not you hear it up following the protocol you're you're gonna right if you're you're gonna cost us money if you don't take that medication. That's the concern that there would be either something either punitive. Dead an insurance company would do. Or just the way that he would be structured in terms of an incentive maybe they say you get a discount. Or you get a preferred. Premium or co pay. Discount if you do it this way and so on people say that ethically that could be interpreted as as. Course that as well. Well Pam thank you very much for your time appreciate it sure we are. Him ballot from the New York Times and you know. The there's two sides that trade jock immunity I'm I'm thinking about the patient who wants the privacy but the same time. If you don't finish your medications. Right regardless of the duke. The type of medication you're taking yup it could cost that insurance company more money. So if I can understand what the insurance company would say. They edu take this pill every day or we're gonna drop we reluctantly by your health insurance from office. That it's just I notes and it's a slippery slope. It just doesn't seem to be consistent. With protecting people's rights to privacy and the right to make their own decisions still make your own decision just can't buy insurance from a little if no delegate out of it now. Obviously you know that Sampson if they don't want you know appropriate and what's the point. Well they'll cover you bring your documents. But that's about like you know they again like if you say hey I don't want to take this week. Who were they refuse coverage completely because it cost more money that interest. That's that's the night I just think that we're talking about something that is the rest invades the privacy and I'd want zero part of it. He. I want no part of it I never. I think it's catches. I wouldn't be surprised if insurance companies push forward I hate it I I think that it is something. That is all I tell you what your customers CDS and you know prescription filled it's what they do. The collier doc. Well that's they outlawed the interests of all companies that battle that's different.